202 ase 198-cr-01101-ILG SEALED Case 1:98-cr-01101-ILGDocument Document 202-1 Filed 2198 Filed 09/04/12 1 of 25 PagelD Page 09/04/12 Page 1 of 25 PageID #: 3424 1 STATES DISTRICT COURT NEW YORK DISTRICT OF UNITED EASTERN 1 2 - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - x 3 STATES UNITED OF AMERICA 4 CR-98-1101 Plaintiff 5 United -against- States Courthouse 6 Brooklyn New York 7 DOE JOHN 8 Defendant. 1000 10 23 October 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2009 a.m. x - TRANSCRIPT 11 12 13 APPEARANCES 14 For the OF SENTENCING HONORABLE I. LEO GLASSER BEFORE THE UNITED STATES Plaintiff DISTRICT BENTON United J. SENIOR CAMPBELL States JUDGE ESQ. Attorney 15 BY 16 MARSHALL MILLER ESQ. United States Assistant Attorneys 17 For the Defendant TODD KELLY LESLIE KAMINSKY MOORE ESQ. ESQ. ESQ. CALDWELL 18 19 20 21 Court FREDERICK Reporter 225 Cadman R. Plaza New 718-330-7687 Brooklyn 22 GUERINO C.S.R. East York 23 24 25 Proceedings recorded produced CAT. THAW by Te Tll n er T r r9 by mechanical -r n n n stenography TTf.T7T transcript r.nr7nm nr. nnmmn Case 198-cr-01101-ILG 202 SEALED Case 1:98-cr-01101-ILGDocument Document 202-1 Filed 2199 Filed 09/04/12 2 of 25 PagelD 09/04/12 Page 2 of Page 25 PageID #: 3425 2 THE 1 number docket 2 Criminal please States approach and sentencing John v. state Doe. name your for the record. 4 KAMINSKY MR. 5 and 6 Good 8 THE COURT 9 MS. CALDWELL and Kelly 11 THE COURT 12 MR. KAMINSKY Caldwell 10 Michelle 13 For the United morning Good morning. for Mr. Honor Your Good morning. We are joined by Good 15 THE COURT 16 MR. KAMINSKY Yes Your Honor. 17 MS. CALDWELL Yes your Honor. 18 THE COURT your the THE 23 of 24 first. f the Are morning ready you Have CALDWELL presentence 22 officer to reviewed you your Honor. proceed the presentence report client MS. 21 probation Espinoza. ESPINOZA 20 Leslie Slater Moore. MS. with Kaminsky Honor. your 14 19 Todd States Miller. Marshall 7 25 for cause United 98-CR-1101 Counsel 3 CLERK COURT nnrnrnrrv will address the issues on report. COURT presentence MS. Moore Ms. MOORE n rrTr. took You report. Yes nrl.Tn some Why Your 11 C. n exception dont we to dispose some of aspects that Honor. nr r. Trr n T rnrTnm nr. n nn M n 202 Case 198-cr-01101-ILG SEALED Case 1:98-cr-01101-ILGDocument Document 202-1 Filed 2200 Filed 09/04/12 3 of 25 PagelD 09/04/12 Page 3 of Page 25 PageID #: 3426 3 THE 1 2 department 3 we start COURT was at in agreement 4 MS. ESPINOZA 5 THE COURT 6 to changed ESPINOZA 8 THE COURT 9 Paragraph ESPINOZA 11 THE COURT 12 of 13 becomes 38 14 should read 15 line. On 16 instead paragraph 125 Yes 117 115 20. should 37 becomes be 37 first line on the paragraph 201 40 becomes 128 the read 34. 38. should instead paragraph now Honor. 123 2 should 41 read your Paragraph 1 of to should range 1 instead 126 paragraph 37 becomes 130 262 and read now 327 range on and the from 192 second 20 25. ESPINOZA 18 THE COURT I 19 MS. MOORE Thats 20 THE COURT I found on my Correct think take desk MS. CALDWELL 24 THE COURT 25 MS. CALDWELL 23 to changed think I Honor. should 45 MS. 22 be in paragraph 17 I probation Correct. 121 MS. that the part observations. your Your Paragraph 10 21 most 34. MS. of the should 23 Yes And 7 0 with 110. paragraph for think I your that was Honor. all of Honor. right your it received you this morning. Yes Your it. Honor. a We communication received that yesterday. You want Yes to Your be heard Honor. I will start with 202 Case 198-cr-01101-ILG SEALED Case 1:98-cr-01101-ILGDocument Document 202-1 Filed 2201 Filed 09/04/12 4 of 25 PagelD 09/04/12 Page 4 of Page 25 PageID #: 3427 4 I that since the Mr. 2 3 wife at 4 was 5 to drink 6 in his 7 provide home. and to the was We the a asked 12 failed the 13 and.829 was 14 County. We 15 this 16 of 17 like case all of to or an get field really of test. think was be of he this this his in if he tested and he . Nassau in bearing case in on light which case sat again. did he any car police pending has case on The which much sitting drive to and could we that home. is too actually sitting able his drink had which case that to he was believe I bearing any and car That limit. that his the circumstances would I now. MS. CALDWELL it from the 19 22 much with out thinking would have COURT 21 he or should other too He parked out dont was reports but sobriety state park like. miles him to a you hour ago realized police running issue. little a into if of the had Slater couple address the of weeks the THE about couple over 18 20 the Mr. court hour an raised and have engine only officer a pulled car. for half He Slater restaurant a driving with court Go ahead. Unless the court has any questions DWI. THE COURT MR. KAMINSKY Does the government want to comment in now 23 24 that we 25 reflect think in TnonTnrrv this any n way No incident the nnTnTnTr? Your Honor while extraordinary r n other than unfortunate cooperation n TTTfTTT the does Mr. f.\rnm fact not Slater nTnnnmTn iCase 198-cr-01101-ILG 202 SEALED Case 1:98-cr-01101-ILGDocument Document 202-1 Filed 2202 Filed 09/04/12 5 of 25 PagelD 09/04/12 Page 5 of Page 25 PageID #: 3428 5 1 provided 2 present 1998 in starting THE COURT 4 MS. CALDWELL man 6 was 7 Street 8 was 9 firms an All nearly up really a to the right. Felix know from the immigrant from Russia. as you where he was 10 in 1991 at 11 and got into 12 person 13 that 14 Slater. 15 his Series 7 16 not really able 17 money. 18 connected with 19 operating a 25 age Mr. act impulsive That He 20 of had foolishly 23 business in 1996 24 criminal activity rn TrTn T r T-I with n and T TT hit had friends one had that As work a from his will his was n TT n in brokerage those The other and person for Mr. in was He lost He felon he need was of foolishly who were mid-90s the firms He and He individuals. accord. own drink for him. child. night to conviction boyhood who firm. recall type much other He young man unfortunate convicted a Wall young person. the He brokerage too criminal brokerage since r brand another legitimate with Slater name bar a license. pump-and-dump Mr. a consequences court of was He of get connected to cascade securities 22 way a some a his in married the letters. resulted a to 21 25 to Slater brokerage was As went and until Lehman li?Itercation suffered.. time self-made report Heworked the at he was presentence Shearson including Slater successful. very several at working lot continuing day. 3 5 and has there Mr. left not were Slater that engaged in 1996. working r LI n in Russia nT. when rrrr T in e 1998 TTnm the nnnnnmr n 202 Filed 09/04/12 6 of 25 PagelD Case 198-cr-01101-ILG SEALED Case 1:98-cr-01101-ILGDocument Document 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 6 of Page 25 PageID #: 3429 2203 . 6 York Police 1 New 2 mini 3 described 4 Slater. 5 pending 6 a 7 indecipherable box City box storage in the Again 9 ATT 10 him. at not was There documents to use Mr. 8 this Slater time the but an were the connected heard cash no that that that Mr. This was was Slater. as working the to word governments Mr. linked were a all brought. charges to upon documents of investigation in Russia was and a letter governments ongoing. or of contained that stumble to happened Department F.B.I. consultant a was looking for for 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Mr. 23 flew to the 24 cooperate 25 ever United pled States guilty to in surrender 1998 and to hes Slater provided F.B.I. been he began to cooperating since. TnTrITn T rTJ n rrlT nTTrl1 $ C n /1TTT/.T7t T r rrnm nnnnnm r n 202 Case 198-cr-01101-ILG SEALED Case 1:98-cr-01101-ILGDocument Document 202-1 Filed 2204 Filed 09/04/12 7 of 25 PagelD 09/04/12 Page 7 of Page 25 PageID #: 3430 7 His 1 the court 2 that 3 criminals 4 where 5 one 6 Street 7 was 8 f 9 who Mr. had cooperation brokerage that were to who the worked he at connection firm where he worked. ranging transferring than 19 from the the brokerage with But people cooperation traditional surrendered in more of type against prosecuted prosecute operation is Again worked. been included which people including yet able sees often Slater has at brokers the in the 1998. No State government various to firm the levels people money 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1?nTnTnTnv n rrrrr-TTt n 0 n nr. n. T/T7 T n?rTnrr nnnnnmr. n Case 198-cr-01101-ILG 202 SEALED Case 1:98-cr-01101-ILGDocument Document 202-1 Filed 2205 Filed 09/04/12 8 of 25 PagelD 09/04/12 Page 8 of Page 25 PageID #: 3431 F% 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The rnrrlnnTrv government n I riT T Twin describes n n n Mr. Slaters cooperation n n T.T nnrrnM r 71T in nnnnmrn Case SEALED Filed 09/04/12 Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 9 of 25 PageID 9 of 25 #: 3432 Page PagelD 2206 . 9 1 their letter 2 agents 3 court 4 one as the over and them will The 5 address cooperation was 7 cooperating defendant. 8 but 9 Honor. Slater Hes 10 since 11 around. He 12 that a 13 stupid 14 legitimate 15 He 16 his 17 with 18 school-aged is He is made mistake. has a him and 20 around. 21 involvement 22 know 23 criminal 24 redemption 25 redeemed You Im very is have with the the hesitant Im sentencing but himself. r.nnnrr rrr n I He has rrrm-r7rn and word c we n has to many court He and working wife his today three young to. has turned his think the of life his describing context you a word I amends /1TTTl?T again another here has Slater. many your government. and really use a life been the Rabbi in the fits Mr. made n his his make dedicated really years fight life in of dramatically with him. very hesitant it for ten he family from the think least expected turned 1998 who letters use 1996 of supportive community to at understatement him to all present hes an bar a caused healthy individual an in since be changed legally which who daughters This 19 who has really since and could cooperated mistake sister are are what life cooperating and mother effect stable very who stupid permits in Slaters Mr. is thats it whose But jobs If that says beyond somebody a ripple and somebody somebody 1996. had above court here are F.B.I. court. also government several with agents the if the worked those understand I 6 Mr. has of Four years. today of He exemplary. T T think over nnrTnm he has the nr. nnnmr. n Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2207 10 of 25 #: 10 of Page 25 PageID PagelD 3433 10 1 last 2 cooperating. 3 incident 4 other 13 hes - 5 6 term and 7 warranted 8 a 9 has in again the probation defacto probation restrictions He not or has been in involved 15 requirement of In 20 really 21 court 22 his 23 himself any cooperation these THE COURT 25 MR. KAMINSKY 7 nv n tTTT I impose and does travel has last not ten slow to any the under he kind of last imposed ten to hes business real estate is the over freely it As years. agents to jail been Slater reporting any years. down full the a little bit for n TATn he has of will n n Mr. is that this circumstances of rehabilitated 1996. or Mr. address Slater leniency really since Kaminsky n think I measure -- really I before. extraordinary fact Mr. did always Honor your the 24 nn TlTn Mr. the As the last F.B.I. no reporter. given and on of think we ten or any case. really has last necessary have You event of but DWI court sentence a Slater the those CALDWELL impose in over for the government court deserving can it with COURT our MS. with the this criminal a ask Mr. traveling the on him THE arms and of for conditions in connection 14 where seen before hes since years notwithstanding appear to eleven extraordinary is case has - context that closely last to to in this very the going going no government the not understand worked years. not We sort of me excuse Hes court Russia -- years Thank you. Miller. the court el%TrTTT first. nnrinm nnnnmTn Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2208 11 of 25 #: Page PagelD 11 of 25 PageID 3434 11 While 1 2 serious 3 Mr. 4 caused. 5 would 6 court. 7 Mr. 8 is 9 types real and Slater the has In to ask He is a that senior he Slater Mr. 10 time in the 11 were one 12 was mid to Felix The 13 other 14 Co 15 concrete 16 defendants 17 schemes 18 numerous 19 given 20 it 21 what 22 information 23 halted the fraud 24 Honor for us 25 went case that form came Felix And operated. to mention investigation in front was of going above rnnnr nTrv to n then were He them which stand beyond r rimr - to and he here r and that C. n tell was is how far the at explain and be you that the r rnr-A most these too take time to any bring them elicited arrests would v. the would they would that 19 F.B.I. into the at States those instances nr. the wizards certainly the only into you F.B.I. countless That tell literally United illuminated brought time. the but looking clearly but are will he I with financial beyond letter Slater the and there 5K a on. at far worked has he the perpetrated and Honor than permits entry being in the explained they Felix to and in what with your But Slater and criminal the defendants that. of first was that address to F.B.I.s were cooperated before court who enforcement law of Slater 19 that 90s late ahead step until frauds you the really fraud Taddeo agent tell could if the involved question any financial Leo Agent F.B.I. was financial of a Special What Honor your conduct theres think far more prevented like Slater. dont I moment a criminal underlying enough Felix and your Slater beginning. r rnTTnm nn. nnmmn Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2209 12 of 25 #: Page PagelD 12 of 25 PageID 3435 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 Time others 22 Felix Slater 23 There was 24 was 25 different really time couldnt 21 who and be was one nothing he helpful doors nnr.nrrn-rrl n of hT7T.TnTTT/1 here the was best the r 0 n here told key and the No task was to open a open nn. government too with. big. He hundred to prior nrn7-A numerous worked we cooperators do. couldnt they have today wouldnt and that all agents again T that r1nr7nm time. nnnnnm7n Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2210 13 of 25 #: Page PagelD 13 of 25 PageID 3436 13 So 1 2 would like 3 inception 4 tell ask to worked about you THE 6 A 7 THE 8 State A 9 10 12 corroborate 13 Mr. I fraud add professionalism in our 17 scheme 18 answered 19 every 20 not 21 believed 22 making a 23 didnt exaggerate 24 than bigger already I TnrrrT also TT n address the court him come I the and up. Honor. or Field Slater he First He was did in his I if his outset favor than what was from He answered truthful be the already himself the He would situation this involved. to by of him. to made of uncover only to could. I epitome best more make the made like statements individuals get to would I and the not Special Office. from to call phone try Assistant observations different could story the letter efforts A person he 5K and honestly. that 25 Mr. the single exaggerate. he the view a 16 question Im Honor. your investigation every from time morning. Taddeo. with of this who your Baltimores of stock all at name. 15 but permits Taddeo Let right. Good Leo worked Slater morning confirm and Leo Agent All morning and court experience. your City the Felix Good VOICE Kaminsky 14 that COURT Good 11 with VOICE in the Agent Special COURT 5 if Honor your have F.B.I. apparent and easily by but he important anymore was. observed Ti r TMr his interaction n n C with nrrT-T71 his T family rntmrn nr. and nnnrn Tn Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2211 14 of 25 #: 14 of Page 25 PageID PagelD 3437 14 1 other 2 and and individuals a actually 3 4 addition 5 the 6 organized 7 about it. 8 often an 9 that terms to what mid-90s of on Wall And given effective AGENT TADDEO bringing 13 cooperation caused 14 Without 15 where 16 Nostra from 17 credit Felix 18 of 19 threat F.B.I. the heard but nature 23 professionalism 24 that 25 to be nothing r family rn T el TJ n being and of able failure witness. Felix his Coppa Honor would at Your to for seeing do us much is Slater was one point too. Honor he in and as to the Bonnano have effectively stock business. but efforts I know in to he worked was result a removed of his family. few a been more La And I the cascading would years Cosa easily efforts eliminate basically Im and can and T T- on a good T M/n his here get and rT with similar comments cooperation prosperous T? it witnesses again 22 rn not in add the Street. I his but damage have only other his to probability Coppa further penny 21 of Frank would not once 20 want just the Frank Your cooperation on Wall in cooperation I success had He instrumental bringing his facing cooperating 12 the of letter Street between COURT 11 was man family witness. cooperating THE 5K dedicated a with. effects F.B.I. crime his the hes say work in the is the 10 to pleasure In can I % dad C n them personality today with from other on their and his agents about the and behalf. lives husband. nrrT/1T7tT and and he I know I hope can rrnrTnm he go on is. nrnnnmT n Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2212 15 of 25 #: 15 of Page 25 PageID PagelD 3438 15 Those 1 2 Im happy 3 THE COURT 4 MR. MILLER to 6 Ms. 7 to underline 8 the office and 9 The length of his here to express 11 capable 12 was by patience Mr. Caldwell be a and answer any Your courts to Honor. Thank 5 10 your my comments are two the many and One has Agent was Mr. is the was he he to been Slaters he the try but Taddeo said did I And perspective a want to in. participated important by cooperation extraordinary. offices how want already investigations from effective dont I what cooperation cooperator how Honor Kaminsky Miller. Mr. you. repeating things. questions. wanted I just how he cooperator was. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 So 21 those are the two wanted points I to to me to make. 22 THE COURT All right. 23 Mr. Slater what would THE DEFENDANT 24 you like say this morning 25 1 tn nnn n T rv n rri r. nTrtn I r have n n been writing r TITTfT71T what I rnrlnm am going nnnnnmr.n Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2213 16 of 25 #: 16 of Page 25 PageID PagelD 3439 . 16 1 to for eleven say Im 2 not trapped at 4 went jail which 5 nobody ever thought 6 had find money 7 file 8 daughter 9 bills 10 scheme 11 Honor. to and time and an have childhood a which I COURT 13 THE DEFENDANT 15 very 16 on Wall with the honest. Street 17 18 in this activity 19 myself despised 20 while was 21 what 22 become 23 despicable. 24 ability and 25 The fight bar a one the I two myself doing them criminal. rnrnrnTrri They n for doing the my that acts TTrn r I 0 n I in in to with this front of never had your I any firms time worked I to I jail. did not sacrifice were down I the afterwards TT and country fraud. nrrrI hated doing committed took I was this them involved was I things financial flushed that trying legitimate parents acts the me that those The and I personal entire years me come werent do activity. of year because very in the have just fttTlT a to that to with half a fight. was mounting Prior to opportunity and and ever 1son criminal my would four-month-old a guilty pled fight bar a approached complaint spent sacrificed they bills worked I prior to During I legal I was I bar a lawyer my had I Yes. for it. felt I had I jail that IFI? read thought job. that Is law. had I to go subsequently THE run-ins never I to done. it. acquaintance 12 14 do appeal a want have I to would moment that at what something I dont I agreed I for didnt I of proud 3 to the but years r took toilet. are rnTTnm not a nrnnnmr. n Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2214 17 of 25 #: 17 of Page 25 PageID PagelD 3440 17 Im 1 justification. 2 circumstances under which 3 was to me at happening 4 5 before 6 was a 7 not want 8 Russia the 9 was to work involved accord me asked involved be what activity or until found I out investigation. criminal in two approximately I activity. in telecommunications with that in the explain time. started getting to trying engaged I the own my government case to of quit I just merely to get years that there did quit. I went to from what I away I here. 10 11 12 But more 13 14 continued all 15 various 16 sentenced 17 did of agents Yes 18 19 The 20 whatever 21 development 22 right up 23 Years ago 24 with 25 month worse r TnnTn and the had Tr-TJ wrote Donald to n leave a an rTTTTTTrr me project has a company C n many times by is time working. get I I am a criminal. that I have done. despite into real built the past company 1TPTTrTT7 real estate whole estate company thing. executive newspaper criminal to yet Yes went I in the the it Honor your have I asked successful article Trump my upon very Trump a things happen impose built block they to I the of why continue redemption. could you to willing some guilty that thing sentence ties I am I was I prosecutors Im no want I why years various said I because it these by because importantly the that I rnTinm next built nr. nnmmn Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2215 18 of 25 #: Page PagelD 18 of 25 PageID 3441 18 1 with 2 theres 3 moment 4 rehabilitate under me. and myself home came the have out. At rug at a school said that to out pulled until case kids would am trying I the getting the get Here over. was said and banks to had I keep that thought I from week later said my my is Dad terrorist. I 9 involved. my life was thought I the otherwise hands criminal a daughter a two own my is is happening 10 now 11 to be in the 12 in some 13 heaped a past way blight and in own my have done and 16 Im ready to 17 me accept fulfill 19 Caldwell 20 me 21 mistake 22 the 23 possible 24 eleven 25 an that do past given years enterprise nnrnr.nrnv n and happen and will I deeds good try for my community mountain of to garbage I things I how is r 7 r. a character which r raises feel a you who The have as how is exemplified you is what RICO prosecution 0 rf r\r became TTrTTT before word you that r stand what possible nTrln Ms. that it the for deserving phrase mistake. question that is persons Given me. intrigues the of terrible a and done. hear hundreds the justification no you have I of guilty with you frequently made years Im Honor that I I always eleven and the punishment literally use do to family to going children my try out before any COURT used for my your anything THE 18 future is life. stand I on put I balance closing 15 that thing the member hopefully In 14 worst the positive on to the guess done over it those involved all was -rrrnm in n .n/1 mrn Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2216 19 of 25 #: Page PagelD 19 of 25 PageID 3442 19 calculated 1 about 2 which 3 of 4 the 5 Colombo 6 has 7 question 8 little 9 about massive a series securities of frauds V cUwt-A u-is / 1 were the conceived of Garafalo and and families that happening assuming by voice inside do to believing have which It wrong. times were They 13 who 14 voice. You werent listening 15 invited you to them. do. I 16 guess Im required the guidelines 17 consider 18 to be 19 an appellate 20 although 21 discretion 22 privilege guided 23 Friendly 25 when the by them court how of doing of the attempted Court Tnnnr-V n which and if it be he greater to did by L n of that a you heard our years district e-1T a but judge He Im has has the right. country ago court P.rTT that unreasonable if be some drastically definition. to that to oxymoron why it Clarkson when them or voice. are something believes judges says 11 an know there time disregard I resolute of Appeals rTTnr1T\ do abused whatever And understood never little the is to come of it do how a think we dont category at have us unconstitutional are I of when that it. it it tell me I could to that have I have to to answer of the times us to and countless most us to that although will semantically One 24 join that that listen exemplify able says dont who never you been assistance Persico the myself speaks 12 it ph and persons hear the I there never enlisted And 11 some also asked is are corrupt have us there callous Cochlin 10 wrong. of I something And who industry security likes cadre a by and Judge concluded judge r\rTnm abuses nnnnMM Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2217 20 of 25 #: Page PagelD 20 of 25 PageID 3443 20 all 1 discretion 2 That 3 because 4 of 5 seriousness 6 automatically 7 harm murder rape burglary 8 which you 9 one becomes Im the relevant and of 11 worthless 12 retirement. 13 childrens 14 crime 15 respects 16 serious 17 the was Hydrock Lost education. characterized far more act. So And as white serious Im the of crime is floating consider because persons for aside for which with Bridge set aside with collar to obliged set harm than serious have physical offense States they they the the hundreds United which which money serious extremely Holly The who people but assault circumstances offense. inflict literally lost money and the for most also many of him. sentence your nature which with disagree with the guess I offenses how stock we seriousness involved Time Fun bought the define measure 10 consider offenses were is saying in connection to obliged offense cant are they their that kind in many infliction the of of a of seriousness offense. Im 18 obliged and 19 promotion 20 factor 21 law. 22 can 23 instantaneously 24 is to 25 is irrelevant respect for the What court administer r.nr. convey nTn that does 7 rri a consider for the to credible law. rTTTn to TTTn injection covey r n is It a achieving rather promote respect it doesnt into - which - convey your law. for the respect r- sentence Obviously understanding for me the consider mean instill an n to at an this curious for the that mean head and What it point means believe I understanding nrTThTTT r.nrTnm I that nTnnnmn Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2218 21 of 25 #: Page PagelD 21 of 25 PageID 3444 21 1 when the law 2 Thats 3 the 4 Dont 5 eventually what law promoting means when it. And do will The 6 the which 8 punishment and 9 other to guide like 11 about 12 response 13 What would 14 that his 15 and 16 in to God. sense of what would be is crime. a what It long. pretty that of just whether God And will the is said prays. or any sometimes I was asked And the silly question God prays answer God prays was overcome his into what factored just scientific punishment somebody 3553a statute imposing that remarkable mercy is mathematical no for pray believe fraud consider to asked means you. question a law it. means it that desire is for justice punishment just case. What 17 18 literally 19 cynical 20 most 21 which 22 a 23 to 24 other 25 sentencing is is and my rrrr. it cooperators. very quick is to begin interesting Tr1ln is cost the 0 n become committed the best cooperate. And this phase of sophisticated nr r. TrlTAT in analysis perhaps aspect more to understand benefit that to tend We case your for having apprehended is about judges with decides case n difficult quickly and in this n a sentence troublesome Tnri So A person rather like cases theres made. minimize nn of mindful. instances and interesting hundreds and crime Mn is determine was thats naturally your there the law the task obliged a for of to up Somebody God arm illegal securities says difficult is of think it catch court conduct respect the most 7 10 certain makes way the of and nnnnm nr.nnmmn Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2219 22 of 25 #: Page PagelD 22 of 25 PageID 3445 22 the 1 knowledgeable 2 cooperation 3 the punishment 4 see that 5 have no 6 would provide 7 which the 8 ladder 9 knowledge and obviously in 10 all the which of any law So 12 extent 13 guideline 14 and 15 does 16 dont think 17 years or 18 like 19 and for much really should getting your which 262 fraud down a lot of is government crux of to what would be that imposed facing amount enormous a a of sentence the except jail term of what the offset 300-some-odd-months that for to this 20 months numbers has the on is suspects the sentence RICO truly trump the cooperation anybody 262 which higher-up the the to statutorily to was to couriers government suffer We position. offset cooperation who convey valuable very guideline to to better sentence your they securities or a information a so A person requires. the to offset imposed. dealers drug give assistance been have his and obtain can otherwise can they trade drug he low-level time the is valuable more benefit more might information 11 so and the criminal years extent time of I 20 newspapers 120 years on. But 20 21 relevant 22 You 23 have theres in a very another real sense be writing your years. Ive often wondered 24 eleven years 25 sentencing. r.nnnnn -r-TT or twelve In your n factor little years case rrrrnTnrn why to they rti 0 n I which and think allocution it were a to the takes bring regard I you me of nrrTrTTT quite said it. for eleven government cooperator aware as your in for assistance Cr%T7nm nr nrnmr.n Filed 09/04/12 Case SEALED Case198-cr-01101-ILG 1:98-cr-01101-ILG Document Document202 202-1 Filed 09/04/12 Page 2220 i 23 of 25 #: 23 of Page 25 PageID PagelD 3446 23 1 the 2 call 3 thought 4 thereafter and quality upon to you maybe every night 7 and wondering 8 the day 9 period of 10 generally 11 burden 12 life 13 carefree 14 worried 15 been which not quite double about sentence Its 16 17 this 18 sense 19 they 20 on 21 a 22 you 23 thieves 24 of 25 that the me your you 7-1 Ti use Aleks Paul thats and have nT n T r.TJ a n the who r rTr n has word TwrT were of 11 n period of have that because given Taddeo a and Their same are they there has thwarted by Salamon That years likes nrrrrTA T c of group the clearly for caused you whole respect which elaborated the And do in a them to harm the were. would I just the deep For time. what you they when imposed. have those and Then redemption. in restlessly imprisonment about Agent to bed cooperating in effect been you what sincere very So end. Clarkson overall of life of desire essentially cooperation fate in thinking a people my be dont letter a be. 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CALDWELL 11 THE COURT afford which to to application charge have you was pay have agreed In Mr. Honor his of part Slater forfeited cooperation a agreement. Bays Hampton Yes. think I it was provided for the cooperation. 13 dont I connection to theres think this MS. CALDWELL No. 16 MR. KAMINSKY No 17 THE COURT dinner with 19 I your think anything else for me your Honor. to do in proceeding. 15 18 advise upon. THE 14 to obliged appeal 9 12 also the appeal I 7 8 Im think I Your wish I wife Thank you drink these you Honor. well next more miserly proceedings are time you go to modestly concluded. 20 21 22 23 24 25 nn r ?n T nv n rr Tnn TM/ n 0 n r.TT r T rnrrnm nr. nnnmrn